On the ASDC for NSRS, can you come up with an example where the RUC would be for NSRS and not local congestion or general market insufficiency?  For instance, I envision the RUC engine reviewing all resources and first determines if there are sufficient scheduled on line resources for Reg Up, Reg Down, and RRS.  It then determines if there are remaining resources on line or offline that can be started within 30 minutes to supply NSRS.  After these passes, it moves to transmission security and overall market sufficiency.  If there are over 5000MWs of qualified A/S Resources on line at any given time, I’m having difficulty seeing how the engine ever stops to award RUC for A/S before moving on to the transmission security and market sufficiency stages which also represent the current RUC process.


And yes, I get that this is done in a single process, but my simple mind likes to think of it this way.  If the engine is to functionally run differently, somebody please let me know.


On the storage facility issue, I will have a problem with anything that allows resources connected to multiple points on the grid to reallocate their A/S due to the fact that the engine is clearing A/S and congestion simultaneously.  If they are connected to the same node, I have no problem with allowing an aggregation.


From: Shams Siddiqi [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 1:16 PM
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Subject: Re: Key Principle Templates


Hi Everyone,


I’m not sure if we’re supposed to provide comments on these documents prior to Friday’s meeting – so, I’m providing comments just in case.


For KP3, based on feedback at the last meeting, I’ve introduced language to truncate the ASDCs at the corresponding AS Plan amount – so, RUC will not procure AS greater than minimum AS Plan amounts. E.g. if Non-Spin ASDC goes from say $1800/MW to $200/MW for AS Plan amount of 1000MW - then RUC will use this truncated ASDC. I also require that RUC apply a floor to Startup Cost (TBD), Min Energy Cost (TBD) and EOC. EOC Floor would be the current $1,500/MWh. This would imply that if there is scarcity, RUC would at most procure the first 100-200MW of Non-Spin (if any) since the ASDC does not justify the cost once offer floors are applied.


For KP1.5, I’ve clarified that Regulation Service deployments will always be Resource Specific under both alternatives – the only difference is whether the Resource Specific amounts are based on optional normalized Participation Factors (PFs). There is no obligation to use Participation Factors and the default would be as specified in Alternative 1. The concern raised at the last meeting that normalized PFs may take time to compute within the 4-second LFC cycle is addressed by having normalized PFs being provided to LFC for each SCED interval. Again, maintaining PFs does not alter the economic efficiency of RTC and can increase efficiency by QSEs providing deployed energy in an economic manner taking into account storage levels in its portfolio of storage and controllable load assets.


There was also a good suggestion that we introduce Energy Storage Group (similar to IRR Group) that can be utilized by a group of Energy Storage assets for GREDP and Base Point Deviation purposes. I’ve added a paragraph to incorporate this suggestion.



Shams Siddiqi, PhD

President, Crescent Power, Inc.

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I wanted to quickly let folks know that the key principle documents in the updated template format have been posted on the 6/21/19 RTCTF meeting page.  We plan to have the full agenda posted tomorrow and these documents will be discussed as part of that agenda.  Additional material for the meeting will likely be posted next week.


We look forward to seeing you all on the 21st





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